A week or so ago I was seeing a lot of this “Smart Mormons” article, written by one Mike Jensen on Canada Free Press. Conservative Mormons were loving it and it was popping up all over social media. I didn’t love it. Indeed, it really got under my skin. And it is not just that Jensen ignorantly lumps all Mormons together as though we are clones.
Although, that does bother me a great deal. It’s ridiculous. He talks about the American Mormon Republican as if that is the only kind of Mormon. Never mind that there are American Mormon Democrats, but most Mormons in the world aren’t even American and they hold vastly different political views all around the globe. (And NEVER MIND not all Mormons even have the exact same religious beliefs. Let’s just leave that out of the discussion for now.)
Whatever. What gets me more is that he refers to these generalized American Mormon Republicans as the “most political wise human beings on the planet.” (GROAN!) And he does so by making inferences about these political beliefs in connection to our shared religious beliefs. But it is all erroneous. The connections he makes between conservative politics and my religious beliefs are not sound.
For starters, he equates political liberty with our notion of free agency. But his interpretation of it is not accurate. Free agency is not the idea that we’ll always be free of anyone ever telling us what we should be doing. Free agency is our God given right to choose a life of good or evil. It is the right to decide between the choices that drag us down and the choices that will bring us back to God at the end of all things. It does not exempt us from responsibility. It does not exempt us from the consequences of our actions. And, most importantly, it does not exempt us from living and functioning within societies and the rules and responsibilities that come from functioning within a civilized society. And I guess in that aspect, it does have something in common with liberty. Because liberty—the freedom from captivity and oppression, which does NOT carry the same connotations as free agency—also does not exempt us from the rules and responsibilities that come from functioning within a civilized society. Heck, liberty also does not mean that we are free of anyone ever telling us what we should be doing. Liberty is not an anti-government notion, and neither is free agency.
Furthermore, Jensen makes this jump from the discussion of free agency and liberty to opposition of governmental tyranny, and I think he thinks he is explaining why all Mormons favor limited government (or, as I like to call it, crippled, pointless government. See? Some of us don’t favor it). He also claims that the Founding Fathers would’ve favored this Mormon notion, and his proof is that the Declaration of Independence also guarantees us “free agency,” or limited government, with its talk of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” Of course, the Declaration of Independence guarantees no such thing. These notions are borrowed from John Locke who wrote about the government’s responsibility to protect civil interest. He described civil interest as, “life, liberty, health, and indolency of body; and the possession of outward things.” By saying we are all created equal and are endowed with certain gifts from God, the Declaration of Independence isn’t protecting us from the government. It is about the government protecting us from outside forces, including each other. And not all the Founding Fathers even agreed on what that meant.
So, beyond the fact that I really don’t like Jensen’s conclusion that all Mormons have the same political beliefs, I really don’t like—or agree with—the rationale he provides for those beliefs. And I don’t think that American Republican Mormons should be sharing this article as a way to explain themselves. Really, I think American Republican Mormons should probably steer clear of trying to base their political beliefs in doctrine at all.
They wouldn’t like my doing it.
I could talk about how very frequently Christ admonishes us to care for the poor. I could point out that when the poor are mentioned in the scriptures, it is not once in conjunction with the idea that they are lazy, dependent, and need to learn the value of hard work. I could point out that Jesus never said anything even close to the idea of “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.”(That’s just an old Chinese proverb, for the record.) Indeed, I recall that He actually just fed a lot of people fish. He didn’t seem to think that helping the poor was a disservice to them. Nor did he ever task us with the responsibility of making sure they were worth the investment. His assumption seemed to be that they always are.
I could talk about how when people asked Jesus if they should pay their taxes, He said yes.
I could talk about the forms of government that are applauded in the scriptures, the forms that we are told would be more utopic, and then I could point out how they much more closely mirror socialism than they do anything else.
I could bring you scripture after scripture after scripture that speaks to the importance of equality, and that promote the idea of those with excess giving to those without.
But listen, American Republican Mormons, I’m not gonna start pinning my political beliefs on our shared religious beliefs and use that as a way to browbeat you into seeing our government as a useful tool that we could use to better the quality of life of all citizens in our society. I believe that using our shared religious beliefs to try to get you to understand that government is not the enemy is not only disrespectful to you, but also going to be a fruitless endeavor more often than not. And that is simply because we see the world differently and so have differing political views. And the reality is that those differing political views are still possible, even if we have all the same religious beliefs. Mike Jensen, who is not a Mormon, doesn’t seem to understand that. But you should.




I haven't read the article you spoke of, but I'm sure I wouldn't like it for many of the same generalizations you present. I don't really like how people are expected to fit in a box because we all have ideas and gifts that contradict each other.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I would like to share my recently gained opinion on caring for the poor. I had the same idea for quite awhile regarding our society's responsibility, and then I took nonprofit classes for my minor which completely contradicted many of my ideas I had gained during my fairly liberal education in the German department (Yes, even at BYU there are liberal professors. Although they often are persecuted).
I was confused and studied and listened and gained a better understanding. I found that when the government cut back on programs, NGOs picked up the slack - that's their role - and quite often are much more successful. The idea is that when people are forced into it, they want to give less and only give the minimum. They also want to give to areas of personal interest and are willing to give more to those causes. The idea of having the government scaled back isn't to not give, in many ways it's to make it much more efficient and more successful in providing for needs.
Also when we are taught to give in the scriptures, it is intended to come from faith - not enforced by government, nor even a societal expectation.
In some areas, I still enjoy and agree with Marxist views, so don't think I'm a crazy Republican - at least not yet ;)
I know well about the liberal professors at BYU. I clung to them while I was there. ;-)
DeleteListen, I think the problem here is not the government, or the programs the government uses to help the poor. It is the ATTITUDE about the government. When I pay my taxes, and I know that some of that goes to helping those that are in need, I don't feel like I was "forced" to help. I feel like the government was my tool, my means of helping. This idea that government is an oppressive entity that takes our money had dispenses it against our will is totally bogus to me. Our, government (for, of and by the people?) is OUR system for making our society one that we want to live in. It may be true that people give less when they feel like they are forced to, but I see no reason why they should feel that way. (I also disagree that the Lord did not intend for that to be a societal expectation. The Law of Consecration is very described as a societal expectation.)
And I love non-profits. I really do. I have worked for and with many of them and I have a lot of respect for the passion they bring to the table. But they aren't enough. They are generally narrow in purpose and scope, as well as geographical outreach. If we live this business all the non-profits, a lot of people will fall through the cracks. What might work is if we had a really big national non-profit that could standardize the way we dispense the help that people need... oh wait, that's what the government is.
You see my point?
Interesting that the article's author isn't even Mormon. And, it's interesting to me how so many people generalize Mormons to be all the same. It bugs me too.
ReplyDeleteIt's always bothered me, likely because I'm just not the average Mormon.
DeleteThis is a topic that surely touches a nerve. And although I am VERY staunchly conservative, I don't disagree with everything you say (just some of it). Your thesis is flawed, though. I am currently a grad student at BYU, so I too have an interest in how things are taught here. Let me just share something from President Benson about socialism:
ReplyDelete"If we really did our homework and approached the Book of Mormon doctrinally, we could expose the errors and find the truths to combat many of the current false theories and philosophies of men, including socialism, humanism, organic evolution, and others."
http://www.lds.org/liahona/1977/05/jesus-christ-gifts-and-expectations?lang=eng&query=socialism
If you choose to listen to a modern apostle (something that is not a negotiable Mormon belief), then I don't see how you could correctly believe in socialism or Marxism (a form of humanism). You are right that not every Mormon has the same religious beliefs. That doesn't mean that they are all correct, but that there is a lot of error.
Here is an excellent treatise on the subject from the D&C Manual:
http://www.lds.org/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-student-manual/enrichments/enrichment-l-the-law-of-consecration-and-stewardship?lang=eng&query=socialism
And here is an excerpt from that lesson:
"Some have suggested that the practice of the law of consecration and the system of the united order are only a religious kind of socialism or communism. Others assert that it was a development either from the economic philosophies of Joseph Smith’s day or from communal experiments within the new religion. Such assumptions are false. The Prophet Joseph Smith attended a presentation on socialism in September 1843 at Nauvoo. His response was to declare that he “did not believe the doctrine” (History of the Church, 6:33)."
I’m not sure that you understand my thesis. You’ve taken one very small part of this post and zoned in on that entirely. It is not even that significant compared to what I was trying to say.
DeleteBut if you must:
You could say that Benson is a modern apostle, because he is not ancient. But, he did live in a very different time than we do now, in the midst of the Cold War, red scare, and during a time when communism and socialism were (falsely) synonymous. And the term humanism, as Benson uses it, is probably meant to be secularism, but we should acknowledge that humanist is a vague term. It can actually mean a lot of things, first applied in the renaissance just to describe the increase in knowledge that humans gained about their world. Also, it is pretty ridiculous at this point to claim that there isn't any validity to organic evolution. I'm sorry but Science just trumps Benson there. My point in mentioning all of that is to point out that apostles are subject to human error. His main idea that the Book of Mormon combats falsehood is sound, so that is cool. But the rest is not hard core evidence that socialism is “evil”.
And, I don't really deny that Marx was secular (and an atheist), I just deny that this fact automatically makes everything he said wrong (no more than Einstein was wrong about his theories, just because his religious beliefs were vague). Like it or not, the United Order still more closely mirrors his ideas than any other form of government we're practicing today. A heck of a lot more than the Republican platform, if we're being honest.
(to be continued)
Of course, the D&C student manual does make a point about that. But before I get into that, I've got to point out the incorrectness of a lot of what is said in the student manual. For one, they again make the mistake of using the terms communism and socialism synonymously. The words in this manual were originally coined in a time when that was the standard (cold war, etc.). But it doesn't make it factual (the most glaring difference between the two is that socialism is not entirely communal the way communism is). The most obvious error in the manual is to say that Joseph Smith attended a conference on socialism. Marx wrote his manifesto in 1848, it didn’t become widely known for years after (more like the 1880s). Since Joseph Smith was dead in 1844... well, you see the problem? The term socialism was actually coined in the 1830s (during the French Revolution) but it meant a different thing then that it did after the advent of Marx. I suppose Joseph Smith could have attended some kind of conference that used the term socialism, but the D&C manual erroneously applies it to the way we understand Socialism today.
DeleteEither way, the crux of the thing seems to be that the big difference is that the United Order will be led by God and will be divine, and we will all actively participate. Socialism is a manmade government institution that forces us... blah, blah, blah. To that, I have pretty much the same response as I did to Dani in the comments above. That is not the fault of the system of government, but of people's attitudes toward it. If we all actively participated in socialism of our own free will because we saw that it was just the most efficient way to better society and care for our fellow man... well, there'd just be little difference left between that and the United Order.
And I would argue it is going to be necessary to come to that point. You people seem to think we are going to moving along fighting for and living pretty much the OPPOSITE of the United Order, and the Lord will suddenly show up and turn everything around. When has He EVER worked like that? If 40 years wandering in the wilderness has taught us nothing else, it is that the Lord always, ALWAYS requires us to show a willingness to live a higher law before he institutes it. Maybe the answer isn't exactly socialism (although I bet it looks like it), I can just sure heck guarantee it is not an anti-government state that lacks any semblance of a social safety net.
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DeleteOh Shaun. I've deleted your last comment, and I'm sorry about that. I'm sure you were very proud of it. But, this is my blog and I get to determine the degree to which you get to spew your moral superiority all over it. Your comments were presumptive, arrogant, and offensive. You narrowly avoided calling me a heretic. The minute you start manipulating the conversation so that it seems I'm arguing for evil and your arguing for righteousness, the conversation is over. You, perhaps, are more comfortable in the "my church never changes, is never influenced by the world, and my leaders are never wrong" bubble. But that is not realistic, nor historically accurate. And you believing it doesn't make you a better "saint" than I am. It just means you have some growing up to do.
DeleteOh, sad, I was really looking forward to that guys response. While I disagree with you on the idea of the government being the best and most effective use of our monies to care for the poor (and seeing how welfare up here in Canada keeps people poor for up to four generations) because the government just throws money at the problem instead of trying to educate and lift.
DeleteWe'd need a heavy reform on the welfare laws and policies for it to actually be effective, and even then I personally feel like Christ's example should drive us towards a personal ministry of the poor, and no government program can really replace that, or function best without it. That's a brief summary of some of my ideas, but I agree in principle: The poor are here (and as Christ said, will always be with us) and we need to do something about it, and being afraid of the government doing is silly.
And I really get irritated when people start quoting Benson about socialism...
Preacher - I agree with you on several points here. We do need major welfare reform. It's just that for some that means cutting those programs way back. I want to boost them. They *could* be effective, if we weren't so afraid of them. And it is silly to be afraid of government involvement. We're on the same page there.
DeleteAnd I think when I say things the way I do, people think I want to use the government as at tool at the exclusion of individual responsibility. But that is also silly. Of course I don't mean that. We are all still responsible for the way we treat others, and for caring for each other. And each of us has strive for that in our own lives. I just don't know why government programs can't be a part of our solution.
I also agree that it is wicked irritating when people quote Benson about socialism. I'd extend that to the quoting of any church leader or scripture about any political matter. That was really the whole point of my post. I don't want conservatives to do it, and I know they wouldn't like it if I did it. And Shaun here kind of proved my point on that, no?
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ReplyDeletethat is a good post. very good points!
ReplyDeleteSo, looks like everything I could think of to say or ask has been brought up and exhausted and/or beaten to death. I too, am sad I don't get to read Shaun's comments just because I need the laugh.
ReplyDeleteI wanted though to share some of my story so you will know how grateful I am for blogs like yours: I was raised in a mostly standard conservative-republican-Mormon household and was spoon-fed that for a while. Had lots of more liberal friends growing up in Southern California, and got to hear all of their opinions or (more often) regurgitations of agenda. Just now, finally at 28, I'm starting to think more for myself and carve out my own ideology that falls to neither one side nor the other. Embraces ideas from both sides and some of the other parties, and I am fairly certain that politically, socially, culturally, etc. We are not going to improve as a nation until we completely reform the party system until it looks more like a bunch of people who realize that nothing is going to be accomplished unless we work hard to find ways to agree, compromise and implement. The problem with this is that it is much, much, EASIER to FIGHT than it is to work at compromise. Not to mention that conflict and controversy will net political figures more funding from whichever side they dance for.
I am slowly learning, also, that it is by sharing my opinions and not being offended by the responses of others that I can learn the most, gain the most insight into how people outside of myself view the issues and the world. So fire away, tell me what I need to do next, where I'm wrong, what you think. I can take what feels right and keep it, file what I'm unsure of away until I have more information, and remember what I disagree with just in case I find further evidence to prove or disprove it.
It's funny what responsible theism has in common with atheism and empirical agnosticism, no? I'm all for the end of blind faith in all but the most fundamental doctrines. Which should be able to be discerned spiritually, anyway.
Thanks for sharing this insight. I agree it is often easier to fight than to compromise, and I know I'm guilty of it myself. More people with your outlook would be better for all of us.
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